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    Hey Everyone,

    My local pet store will be carrying Canine Caviar next week. They were telling me how great this food is and how good it was for the skin, digestion, etc. and that many local vets had been calling to see if they carry it. I'm currently feeding my dane Solid Gold Hund N' Flocken and she's doing great -- the only thing I notice is my Dane gets the "cow pie" syndrome once in a while and there isn't a local store that carries it -- it's just a pain to travel to pick the food up. My collie mix is on Solid Gold as well.

    The Lamb formula from Canine Caviar is 21% protein and I think 12% fat, so it falls within the limits nutritionally for my 8 month old Dane.

    Has anyone used this food? If so, what's your opinion on it and what success did you have with it.

    Thanks!

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  • #2
    RE: canine caviar

    I've actually just started using this food myself, it seems to be working well and lennon seems to like it.
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    • #3
      RE: canine caviar

      Hi! I have never heard of or used this brand before so I did a google search on it. Here's the link for the Lamband pearl millet forumla:

      http://www.caninecaviar.com/adultfor...ambIngredients

      Honestly I have no idea what pearl millet (The second ingredient) is so maybe someone else will chime in soon with a bit more advice. Personally I don't think it looks so hot, I don't think it's terrible but I prefer Chicken Soup if I feed kibble. I don't feed kibble anymore because we switched over to raw, but when I did, I found that the brand my dogs did best on was Chicken Soup for the Dog Lover's Soul (Large Breed Adult & regular Adult forumlas are great for Dane pups also) And it wasn't very expensive (in my area at least) I paid $27 for the big bag. Some pet stores like Petsmart don't carry it, but alot of the feed stores do. I'm pretty sure someone else can give more input. I think if you go to Old Mission Danes website, they have a kibble grading system that you can use to rate the ingredients of Canine Caviar. I believe Chicken Soup scores a 103 on the grading system.

      http://www.chickensoupforthepetlover...ry%20Food&F=13

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      • #4
        RE: canine caviar

        Food Grading System-How to Grade your dogs food:

        This information was taken from Old Mission Dane's Website.

        http://www.oldmissiondanes.com/diet.html

        Here's the recently revised kibble rating chart, as created by Fredalina:

        You will need your kibble's list of ingredients, as found on the bag (or oftentimes their website).
        Please note, however, this is for ingredients ONLY.... so before feeding a pup be sure to look at
        the protein and fat and calcium and calories in the Guaranteed Analysis.

        Start with a grade of 100:

        For every listing of "by-product", subtract 15 points

        For every non-specific animal source ("meat" or "poultry", meat, meal or fat) reference, subtract
        10 points

        If there are no specific meats or meat meals, subtract 25 points

        For every grain "mill run" or non-specific grain source, or grain "middlings", subtract 10 points

        If the food contains BHA, BHT, or ethoxyquin, subtract 15 points

        If the same grain ingredient is used 2 or more times in the first five ingredients (i.e. "ground
        brown rice", "brewer’s rice", "rice flour" are all the same grain), subtract 5 points for each
        occurrence

        If the protein sources are not (specific) meat meal and there are less than 2 meats in the top 3
        ingredients, subtract 3 points

        If it contains any artificial colorants, subtract 5 points

        If it contains ground corn or whole grain corn, subtract 3 points (subtract 5 if corn is listed in the
        top 5 ingredients)

        If the food contains any animal fat other than fish oil, subtract 3 points

        If lamb is the only animal protein source (unless your dog is allergic to other protein sources),
        subtract 2 points

        If it contains soy or soybeans, subtract 5 points

        If it contains wheat (unless you know that your dog isn’t allergic to wheat), subtract 2 points

        If it contains beef (unless you know that your dog isn’t allergic to beef), subtract 1 point

        If it contains salt, subtract 3 points

        If it contains corn syrup, molasses, or other added sweetener, subtract 10 points

        Extra Credit:

        For every different specific animal protein source (other than the first one; count "chicken" and
        "chicken meal" as only one protein source, but "chicken" and "turkey" as 2 different sources - do
        not count egg, cheese, or other similar ingredients), add 1 point

        If the food contains 3 or less different mentions of grains (or other high-carb plant-based foods
        like potatoes), add 5 points

        If any of the meat sources are organic, add 5 points (if the number 1 ingredient is organic meat,
        add 10 points)

        If the animal sources are hormone-free and antibiotic-free, add 3 points

        If the food is baked not extruded, add 5 points

        If the food contains probiotics, add 3 points

        If the food contains fruit or vegetables (NOT corn or other grains), add 3 points

        If the vegetables have been tested for pesticides and are pesticide-free, add 1 point

        If the food contains barley or oats or oatmeal, add 1 point

        If it contains sunflower, hemp, flaxseed, or other polyunsaturated vegetable oils, add 3 points
        (add 5 if it is the #1 fat)

        If the vitamin and mineral sources are chelated, add 5 points

        94-100+ = A

        86-93 = B

        78-85 = C

        70-77 = D

        <70 = F

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        • #5
          RE: canine caviar

          Canine Caviar:
          Lamb & Pearl Millet Adult Dog Food

          Ingredients: Dehydrated Lamb, Ground Pearl Millet, Whole Ground Brown Rice, Chicken Fat (preserved with Mixed Tocopherols), Lamb, White Fish, Whole Ground Flaxseed, Sun-Cured Alfalfa, Beet Pulp Shreds, Sun-Cured Kelp, Canola Oil, Sodium Chloride, Whole Clove Garlic, Potassium Chloride, Lecithin, Peppermint, Parsley, Papaya, Dried Chicory Root, Choline Chloride, Taurine, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Rose Hips, Rosemary Extract.

          Vitamins & Minerals: Ascorbic Acid, Zinc Sulfate, Riboflavin Supplement (source of vitamin B2), Ferrous Sulfate, Magnesium Amino Acid Chelate, Calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Niacin, Vitamin A Acetate, Calcium Amino Acid Chelate, Calcium Iodate, Zinc Amino Acid Chelate, Manganese Amino Acid Chelate, Copper Amino Acid Chelate, Iron Amino Acid Chelate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (source of vitamin B6), Vitamin D3 Supplement, Cobalt Carbonate, Thiamine Mononitrate (source of vitamin B1), Biotin, Folic Acid, Sodium Selenite (Selenium), Beta Carotene.

          Hund-n-Flocken

          Ingredients
          Lamb | Lamb Meal | Millet | Brown Rice | Cracked Pearled Barley | Oatmeal | Rice Bran | Menhaden Fish Meal | Canola Oil | Flax Meal | Amaranth | Blueberries | Dried Chicory Root | Carotene | Choline Chloride | Vitamin E Supplement | Iron Proteinate | Zinc Proteinate | Yucca Schidigera Extract | Copper Proteinate | Manganese Proteinate | Potassium Iodide | Thiamine Mononitrate | Ascorbic Acid | Vitamin A Supplement | Biotin | Calcium Panthothenate | Sodium Selenite | Pyridoxine Hydrochloride | Vitamin B12 Supplement | Riboflavin | Vitamin D Supplement | Folic Acid |

          IMO, there's not a big difference between the two, if your dogs like Solid Gold then stick with it.
          -Ericka
          **Java (Dane, 3 years)**Mickey (Dane, 2 years)**Charlie (Cockatiel, 5 yrs)**Angel (Cockatiel, age unknown)

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          • #6
            RE: canine caviar

            Hi All,
            Refreshing this old topic in hopes that there may be more users of Canine Cavier since last year.

            Our 6-1/2 YO Dane Jupiter is recovering from colon torsion, and he's ready to be switched off home-cooked chicken and rice. He needs a diet suitable for dogs with IBD, colitis, or pancreatitis that will sustain him for the rest of his life. Our vet recommended switching Jupiter off RMB ( ) to a highly digestible kibble. Unfortunately, the recommended prescription diets are full of ingredients I wouldn't feed my Dane.

            We've looked at several commercial kibbles, and the Canine Cavier forumlations with pearl millet seem to be one of the most highly digestible holistic diets.

            Main web site is here: http://www.caninecaviar.com/ and full ingredients list is here: http://caninecaviar.com/blog/2006/07...r_ingredi.html

            Any experience with Canine Cavier since this earlier post? Thanks in advance for sharing!



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            • #7
              RE: canine caviar

              Hi

              My .02cents: Be very very careful of food with garlic in

              After an extensive search for decent food in South Africa, I found one with similar ingredients to Canine Caviar. Oh man did we suffer for almost a month with serious garlic breath & hectic hectic garlic farts It became soo unbearable for us, we have now switched to RAW.

              Seriously though just becareful of the garlic, it makes the poor babies seriously gassy and noxious

              Crystal can vouch for the rants that I've had regarding this!

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              • #8
                RE: canine caviar

                No slight intended, but ROFL!!!!

                Gotta say, feeding RMB we haven't had this problem, hadn't even thought about this. Might be worth doing a trial run before we commit.

                Thanks Joni!


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                • #9
                  RE: canine caviar

                  Yup, it was really bad!! x( x( x(

                  Please give it a trial run, I've got five dogs, fortunately when all the weights are added up they equal 1 & 1/2 Danes, I see you have 4 so you'd be in for a really rough time ;a) ;a) ;a)

                  I must say since converting to RAW this week we haven't had a gassy problem at all thankfully :e) :e)

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                  • #10
                    RE: canine caviar

                    Our others will remain on raw, so perhaps having only one gassy dog won't suck all the oxygen out of the house.

                    I got some samples of Caviar from our local holistic pet food store, so we'll proceed slowly....

                    Thanks!


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                    • #11
                      RE: canine caviar

                      As a final update, we decided on Innova Evo. According to a local holistic vet, it's no grain, no by-products, no chemical preservatives, first four ingredients are meat. Supposed to be the closest kibble to a raw diet but without having to add supplements. We're slowly switching over.

                      Thanks for everyone's input!!!! You DOL-ers ROCK! :e)

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                      • #12
                        RE: canine caviar

                        Lissa, I sent you an email about EVO, did you get it?
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                        • #13
                          My Great Dane 10yrs old has been battling colitis for 7 months now .. the med tye worked for a while now he just lives on Metronidazole and it works unless we run out. And then it starts right back again. Feeding home cooked chicken and rice .. but without meds it’s bad.. not sure how to stop this cycle .. I understand.. wish there was a better answer or solution.. Anyone???..

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                          • #14
                            Have you tried probiotics? If not I recommend giving it a shot... also chicken & rice is not a balanced diet...I recommend looking to see how to make it more balanced nutritionally, since it seems to be what is working for you.
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                            • #15
                              I have also heard about such type of food and its use for the dogs. But what about the one from here? Have you tried to feed your puppy in such a way? Mine likes it greatly.

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