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    choke collar

    Olivia is basically well behaved, but one problem I've had is her pulling on the leash. I can control her with the Gentle Leader, but she still pulls and she hates it. I bought a Sensation harness and she doesn't mind it, but she can still get ahead of me if she sees something exciting (usually a squirrel) We went to the beach this weekend,and my friend brought his dogs choke collar and she walked so nice for him. It was like she was doing it all her life. He's had GSD's for 30 yrs. and has always used a choke collar. He didn't use force at all. My question is , for those of you that use choke collars, what do I need to know to fit it properly. I know how to put it on, but I'm not familiar with sizing. Also, any other advice since this is new for us.
    Thanks,
    Linda
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    RE: choke collar

    Sorry abput the double post.
    Disconnected and when it came back, it was times 2
    Linda

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    • #3
      RE: choke collar

      If the collar your friend used worked perfectly - try to buy that one from him.

      Sandy

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      • #4
        RE: choke collar

        I am a fan of the good dog training collar (they sell it at petsmart). Unlike a choke collar, it can only tighten up a certain amount. Also, it doesn't pinch his skin like a choke collar can sometimes do.


        Brian

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        • #5
          RE: choke collar

          A choke collar won't solve your problem. Only training, both of you and your dog is the only thing that will solve it. You are trying to short cut the process by using a crutch.

          If you can control her with a Gentle Leader (and you should be able to), start there and gradually wean her over to a plain leather or nylon collar after you have taught proper leash behavior. Begin with no distractions and gradually, and I mean very gradually, work up to stronger distractions. Teaching proper leash behavior is a long process and can't be done overnight with a crutch.

          Bill Carnes
          www.skylarzack.com
          www.k9goodbehavior.com

          "Unnatural diets predispose animals to unnatural outcomes"
          Dr. Tom Lonsdale

          Causing pain, either physical, mental, or emotional to an animal to force him to act as you think he should is wrong. It was wrong yesterday, it's wrong today, and it will be wrong tomorrow. Doing so only reflects the ignorance of the trainer. There IS a better way.

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          • #6
            RE: choke collar

            I don't think it was the collar that was what worked but rather the person on the other end of the leash. Your dog has "learned" to pull with you. With someone else that is an "authority" figure she walked nicely. She knows her stuff, but also knows what she can get away with.


            I see this often in classes.Owners having a hard time controling their dogs...they pull, yank, get frustrated..the dog just gets worse and more out of control..myself or one of the other trainers take the dog and it's like a whole different dog on the other end of that leash.



            Find a good trainer to help you teach your dog to respect you and listen to you.

            Dale
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            • #7
              RE: choke collar

              You have the advantage of already seeing what marvelous behavior she managed for your friend - I would call your friend and tell him you need his help in training your dog to act for you the way she acted for him. I think the collar he used probably had very little to do with it. People approach training with the idea that a particular tool is going to do the trick, when there are 8 or 9 other factors that come into play. It's like getting a garden to grow; there is so much more involved then just planting the seed.
              My best boy, Trooper.
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              • #8
                RE: choke collar

                I think you hit the nail on the head,Olivia is my first dog. We have done classes but there is definately more of a problem on my end of the leash.I think she feels a push over. I'm off today, so I'm going to take her to our usual walking place and start over with the Gentle Leader keeping in mind that I may not have to use it forever. Also, I want to take the CGC test and you can't use a Gentle Leader.I can't walk her everyday due to my work schedule, but we are going to go every opportunity we get. I also want to do the MAGDRL meet and Greets with her,so that will help the situation.
                Thanks to all,
                Linda

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                • #9
                  RE: choke collar

                  I am against "choke" collars personally. Choke collars can cause trachea damage when used inproperly. Definitely check out a training class that you and the dog can attend so that your dog is being trained and so are you. Good luck!

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