I don't know that there is a training forum for how to deal with this action. KK (my daughter) has a friend over for a sleep over. Last night Coltrain followed them everywhere as he usually does w KK. We noticed that he would go and try to sit in between KK and her friend .while watching tv. Then when they went to lay in bed C goes with her as he does every night. He gets in the bed and lays right in between the girls (not much space in that bed - 2 11 yo girls and a 6 mo GD). Next we hear a loud thump and C has pushed the other little girl out of the bed! Of course extreme laughing begins bc they think it is sooooo funny. We close the bedroom door and he will not leave the door. Just sits at the closed door. This morning I am keeping him almost tethered to me so the girls can play and not have to worry about him getting jealous. Thoughts??
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It all depends on his attitude during the whole situation. There is a chance that he was resource guarding a bit...there is also a good chance he just wanted to be in the middle of all the action.
The main thing would be just to get him really used to it, lots of good positive associations, etc. Perhaps when she has a friend over try to do something extra special with him, or give him a special toy or treat to have so he gets rewarded for not being in the middle of them the whole time?
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Originally posted by Greenmagick View PostIt all depends on his attitude during the whole situation. There is a chance that he was resource guarding a bit...there is also a good chance he just wanted to be in the middle of all the action.
The main thing would be just to get him really used to it, lots of good positive associations, etc. Perhaps when she has a friend over try to do something extra special with him, or give him a special toy or treat to have so he gets rewarded for not being in the middle of them the whole time?
How can I tell the difference btwn guarding her and just liking to be the center of her attention?sigpic
Coltrain AKA "The Crazy Train"
4 months old
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Originally posted by Greenmagick View PostIt all depends on his attitude during the whole situation. There is a chance that he was resource guarding a bit...there is also a good chance he just wanted to be in the middle of all the action.
The main thing would be just to get him really used to it, lots of good positive associations, etc. Perhaps when she has a friend over try to do something extra special with him, or give him a special toy or treat to have so he gets rewarded for not being in the middle of them the whole time?
again, my opinion is assuming that there wasn't any growling or aggression involved... if there was i'd suggest getting help from a trainer and working on desensitizing that dog quick. try reading "the dog who loved too much" by Nicholas Dodman--it's very informative. good luck!Mom to Isaac (5y), Moses (3y), Lilly (5m GD puppy) and wife to Daddy
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No growling or anything that could be aggressive. The push off the bed could have been stretching I guess but considering all of the other "in the middle" actions I am not so sure. We always have girls over and theyball love to play with him and we haven't had annoy problems until yesterday. I will take your advise and donsome training with him and include her friends for sure. Also thanks for the book rec. I will be sure to read it soon!sigpic
Coltrain AKA "The Crazy Train"
4 months old
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IMO - it is a very "cute" way of being pushy/dominant.
My Bronte is is very much like this - she is insecure dominant. She likes to be in the middle of everything. If someone else is getting attention - she wants in. I have to set boundaries - make her wait her turn, etc.sigpicNikol Marsh & Glory, Emma, Tycho & Bronte
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Simon stretches and nearly knocks me out of bed often.
He also HAS knocked himself out of bed a few times stretching out & kicking his legs in his sleep; plop, right onto the floor... Now I keep pillows and blankets on the floor around my bed so he doesn't get hurt lol- Chrissigpic
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Originally posted by tammystringer View PostI did go get him a new toy when I ran an errand today. I think he might like to be in THE MIDDLE (literally) of the action. He abandoned his new toy and has sat in between the girls any time he can. We have a large couch w an long ottoman that he likes to lay on w KK and the girls were on the ottoman/couch and he muzzled his way right in the middle. Lots of petting and kissing happened along with laughing about how Coltrain likes to be with the girls.
How can I tell the difference btwn guarding her and just liking to be the center of her attention?
Personally, I would set some solid boundaries for him. If she wants to play with her friends, then get a baby gate, so he can see her but they can play in her room or in the living room without him barging in. I don't know how old your daughter is, but if she is old enough to understand, I would also encourage her to get up and leave when he is being pushy. The most valuable reward to C is her time and attention and if being pushy get the opposite of that, he will learn to wait his turn.
I also think the push off the bed was probably him just smooshing in and was just too big. My boys knock the kids, themselves, me, pillows, everything off the bed just rolling around being weirdos or stretching in their sleep.sigpic
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Reich does this with my 10 year old son and his friend Nick. Nick has a running playdate of every Tuesday, so he is here a lot. With Reich it is just that he loves having the extra person in the house, and he thinks he should be right in the middle of the two boys, as if he is one of the "crew". If they play video games, he lays in between them (in a tiny circle) so he is touching them both. THey actually use him as an arm rest. He does the same thing with wanting to sleep with them. The boys sleep on cots during overnights, and we set up a cot for Reich. I tried keeping him out of the room, and he did the same thing with laying outside the door. When Nick is not here Reich is my shadow, and only hangs out with my son if I am around too.
I can not judge your dogs temperament, of course, I'm just relating what we see here. For us it is really just the dog wanting to be one of the boys and included in the festivities. Reich is very social though, so I do not find your experience unusual. When he was younger, like your pup, I had to teether hiim to me with a leash anytime my kids had friends over, or he would be in their laps. I also have two teen sons, and I swear the entire group of girls that visit here are 5' tall and 95 pounds (how do they ALL stay that small? ) and of course Reich, living with all males but me, thinks little teen girls are The Bomb. Now he is trained to be polite, but when he was younger he was quite the pest. It is really cute to see the facial expression, ear set, and antics he displays around the female guests.
I guess I look at the first year as being one solild training exercise. Every experience the dog has teaches him something more about life. You just have to reinforce your expectations at every turn and be consistant.
This is just my perspective though, and I am by far not an expert!
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My Deuce is just like Reich as well Courtney and I would have interpreted things the same way as you did just because of this. When we have people over they are the most interesting things in the world and forget mom and dad! He shows off his toys, expects that everyone would like kisses and of course guests in the house aren't always as careful as we are as far as making sure that food etc. isn't easily accessible.
Deuce also insists on sleeping between myself and hubby when we let him sleep with us which is generally a once in a while treat!Tamara and Deuce
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