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  • Article: Problems Associated With Adopting Two Puppies at the Same Time

    I have not been involved in any of the threads discussing the perils of getting two puppies at the same time, but I did read all of them. I just saw this article from Whole Dog Journal that seems to do a great job of summarizing all of the concerns with this issue. I don't think it's been posted on here before, but then again I didn't check to see if it has been

    http://www.whole-dog-journal.com/iss...e_16190-1.html

  • Greenmagick
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    Sometimes it does work out....but keep in mind, your dogs are still puppies really. Often the issues tend to show later in age.

    I had two sister saints growing up and they were awesome. They did start fighting when they were older though, like 7-8

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  • cctexasgirl
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    Beginners luck

    Interesting to read this after-the-fact. Thanks for posting!

    I rehomed Nikko & Ridley from a lady when they were four months old. They are littermates and were not well socialized when I got them. They were fearful of everything, and had little exposure to things outside their home.

    Despite their rough start, they have done amazingly well. Watching them grow (they just turned 1) has been a joy. They are both gentle & sweet, but clearly have very different personalities. Ridley still tends to be a little skittish in certain situations- something we continue to work on. Nikko is the rock- calm, friendly, and protective. Over the last few months, I have seen one or the other take the lead in different situations and have witnessed them teaching each other something on numerous occasions. Often during training one will catch on to a concept first, and it is obvious that the other learns it by watching the sibling.

    They are definitely closely bonded, and do pretty much everything together. You will seldom find them in separate areas of the house. The vet & the groomers have always seen them together, and it has not yet been an issue. Even when Ridley needed an overnight stay at the vet, they let Nikko stay too, and put the two together in a large crate. During puppy classes it became somewhat of an issue while trying to practice leash work. They are always too distracted to focus when they are apart but in close range. If we take them to different locations to work where they are not near each other, they are fine. (Although they will still look around for the other- something they also do with my kids when we are near children.) Normally I always take them together to the dog parks & on walks, and they do beautifully. I get loads of compliments in how well behaved they are. (Ha!!)

    Upside for me is that they absolutely do provide companionship & entertainment for each other when their people are not around. I love to watch them play- cutest thing ever. They chase, wrestle, and play keep away or tug-of-war with their toys. Other then a few small items here & there (flip-flops or toys that were left out on the floor), they have not chewed up anything in the house despite never being crated. They have been boarded and have stayed in hotels alone ( Kimpton!) without issue. It makes me feel good to know they don't just sit by the door & wait for me when I'm gone. But no mistake- I still get the "OMG!! YOU"RE HOME!! YAYYYY!!" welcome when I return.

    In the past I owned a cat that would tip over & dig up all my house plants any time I was away overnight. He was alone all day & was fine, but he got bored (or stressed?) if I was gone any longer. I got a kitten to keep him company, and it never happened again. Instantly stopped the behavior. So I am definitely a firm believer in the need animals have for companionship. As to the end-of-life issues, I had two non-related cats obtained at different times who died weeks apart at ages 16 & 17. No doubt in my mind the second went downhill because of the loss of the first. I don't know how you could ever avoid this issue without limiting yourself to one pet at a time. It's just part of owning pets.

    If there are any real down sides to having two pups, in my experience it has only been for those things that are difficult with danes anyway, like costs & size/control/safety issues. If you have a dog that gets excited on a walk and wants to chase a squirrel, it is double trouble trying to hang on to two. And I did end up with a broken pinkie finger one night when a neighbor startled the pups and they both took off at the same time. Lessons learned! But I consider these problems merely those associated with owning giant dogs, not specific to having siblings.

    Maybe I just got lucky with my two, but based on my experience so far, I would feel comfortable adopting two together again. Maybe things will change over time, who knows? I'll keep everybody posted!

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  • susank13
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    Too late now. Lol

    Ok, one month ago we brought a male and female litter mates in to our home.
    So far so good. It is a lot of work and time consuming.
    We weren't part of this website at the time but had
    asked around and no negatives on litter mates.
    Hopefully since I've read the info here I can take
    some of the suggestions an make thi work. We do take
    Separate times for training individually and outside walks.
    Goliath and Georgia are only 3 months old so
    hopefully we can do this right! Wish us luck and knowledge!

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  • CADRMNDANES
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    Article from a long time experienced dane person.

    >>>http://www.daynakingreatdanes.com/Tw...Together_.html
    This is for people who are thinking of raising two puppies together. I'm not saying it can't work, just that most people do not realize how much effort it takes to do this. The article is aimed at new owners who might think of doing this.....not at breeders/experienced people who know how to socialize and train.

    Just thought some people might find the link helpfu!


    Georgia
    DaynakinGreatDanes.com
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    Last edited by CADRMNDANES; 03-20-2012, 04:44 PM.

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  • Greenmagick
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    Originally posted by SAMom View Post
    I will keep you updated as we go along. I should note, as well, that both dog trainers I talked to prior to adopting our second did not see any issues with having two puppies the same age. Nor did my vet.
    It does sometimes work, but often it doesnt. I know the trainers I worked with, if we heard littermates or two pups really close in age, you could pretty much hear the deep breath taken. My saints were littermates...were the best of friends and loved each other deeply...until they were about 4 or 5. I dont know the details as my dad and stepmom had divorced by then and she got the dogs, but they were fighting.

    Its not usually a problem when they are young...its when they are older.

    Its not something that always causes a problem either...I do know a nice amount of people who have had nothing but good experiences with it and that is great for them. Its just youre stacking the odds against yourself if you get littermates or two pups very close in age.

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  • SAMom
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    I will keep you updated as we go along. I should note, as well, that both dog trainers I talked to prior to adopting our second did not see any issues with having two puppies the same age. Nor did my vet.

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  • DaneFolly
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    Originally posted by SAMom View Post
    They are just over seven months old.
    Well please give us an update when your pups get through the "teenage" months and let us know if your smooth sailing continued. It's difficult to draw any definitive conclusions when the pups are just now reaching the age for sexual maturity.

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  • SAMom
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    They are just over seven months old.

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  • DaneFolly
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    Originally posted by SAMom View Post
    My puppies are three days apart in age, though we adopted them five weeks apart, and I have not had a single one of these problems. While they love to play together, they certainly are not co-dependent. They spend a lot of time playing by themselves and with my other dog (who is never excluded if she wants to join in the fun). They are both extremely bonded to the humans in their lives. Perhaps because I am home all the time and have a lot of opportunity for one-on-one attention, or I was just blessed with good dogs, but I really haven't found the downside of having two puppies at once.
    How old are your dogs now?

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  • SAMom
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    My puppies are three days apart in age, though we adopted them five weeks apart, and I have not had a single one of these problems. While they love to play together, they certainly are not co-dependent. They spend a lot of time playing by themselves and with my other dog (who is never excluded if she wants to join in the fun). They are both extremely bonded to the humans in their lives. Perhaps because I am home all the time and have a lot of opportunity for one-on-one attention, or I was just blessed with good dogs, but I really haven't found the downside of having two puppies at once.

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  • Arienrhod11
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    Littermates

    I think part of the issue does also relate to the personalities of the puppies. I have littermates and they have bonded wonderfully with us as well as each other.
    I have to add a caveat that you should not get littermates if you don't have the time to spend with them - and CERTAINLY not if you think that they will "entertain each other", because that WILL result in problems!

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  • ouesi
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    Another article, by a credentialed trainer, saying the same thing.
    This is a recurring theme in dog training circles. Two pups of the same age rarely ends well....
    http://thepuppynannyponders.blogspot...-than-one.html

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  • HossMom
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    Great article ...

    For those considering a second dog, would you get a dog that differs in age from your current one, or does it matter after a certain age?

    Just curious what others though after reading this article.

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  • dolmod
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    It's a sticky. Good article-Thanks!

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