An Apology

[Tucker's Mom]

I just had the WORST experience at a daycare forum, and it got me thinking about new members on here. I'm not on the forum as much as I was in the past, but if anyone has felt completely disrespected and kicked in the gut I truly apologize. I've got several pairs of big girl panties, but that does NOT excuse anyone from blantantly treating someone so poorly for expressing a concern or opinion or even questioning advise for clarification. OMGosh, I am just floored! That experience makes me question all daycare providers now. I truly hope people aren't walking away from here with that feeling towards reputable breeders. If so, then our goals towards education and awareness will never be met.

[KatieRae]

I just had the WORST experience at a daycare forum, and it got me thinking about new members on here. I'm not on the forum as much as I was in the past, but if anyone has felt completely disrespected and kicked in the gut I truly apologize. I've got several pairs of big girl panties, but that does NOT excuse anyone from blantantly treating someone so poorly for expressing a concern or opinion or even questioning advise for clarification. OMGosh, I am just floored! That experience makes me question all daycare providers now. I truly hope people aren't walking away from here with that feeling towards reputable breeders. If so, then our goals towards education and awareness will never be met.

If you don't mind my asking.. What in the world happened?

I know there have been some threads on this forum that have been a little less than what people would consider friendly, however, as one of those people who has gotten more than just one unfavorable response to a post, the general attitude and tone of those posts has never seems to be vicious towards me personally. Honestly, the longer I hung around, the more I began to realize that it wasn't that I was being attacked, it was that I was ignorant, fighting for the wrong side, or just blatantly wrong. Now, I'm a pretty bull-headed, stubborn person, and I feel like if I was able to see past my wounded pride and come to terms with the fact that none of what was said was meant to personally hurt and offend me, then other people should be able to do so as well.

It's tough, and it really sucks, but I think we all have some thin skin sometimes

[Tucker's Mom]

Conversation in a nutshell.....I asked a question about sick policies and high maintenance babies. Got onto the topic of breastfeeding too.

Responses ranged from: "I would kick you out if you questioned my policies"
"Parents aren't allowed into my home daycare..only to the door"
"You don't have the right to be in my home"
"I'm sick of entitled, snotty, whiny parents"
"Who do you think you are for thinking you have the right to object your opinions into my business"
"Just because you gave birth to your child, doesn't earn you special rights in my daycare"
"When your child is at my facility, you have no right to decide what goes on"
"I will do what I want with your child when they are in my care."

The list goes on. I'm honestly sick about it!!

[kahluadanes]

Those are responses that I would NOT accept/tolerate from ANY daycare that my child would be attending!!!

[zoocrew]

Conversation in a nutshell.....I asked a question about sick policies and high maintenance babies. Got onto the topic of breastfeeding too.

Responses ranged from: "I would kick you out if you questioned my policies"
"Parents aren't allowed into my home daycare..only to the door"
"You don't have the right to be in my home"
"I'm sick of entitled, snotty, whiny parents"
"Who do you think you are for thinking you have the right to object your opinions into my business"
"Just because you gave birth to your child, doesn't earn you special rights in my daycare"
"When your child is at my facility, you have no right to decide what goes on"
"I will do what I want with your child when they are in my care."

The list goes on. I'm honestly sick about it!!

Holy crap, that sounds terrible! Those do not sound like professionals AT ALL! While I'm sure they get their share of helicopter moms and crazies, they do need to remember that not all parents (or children) are the same and asking questions really should be par for the course when you are caring for human or animal "babies".

[oshagcj914]

Conversation in a nutshell.....I asked a question about sick policies and high maintenance babies. Got onto the topic of breastfeeding too.

Responses ranged from: "I would kick you out if you questioned my policies"
"Parents aren't allowed into my home daycare..only to the door"
"You don't have the right to be in my home"
"I'm sick of entitled, snotty, whiny parents"
"Who do you think you are for thinking you have the right to object your opinions into my business"
"Just because you gave birth to your child, doesn't earn you special rights in my daycare"
"When your child is at my facility, you have no right to decide what goes on"
"I will do what I want with your child when they are in my care."

The list goes on. I'm honestly sick about it!!

Wow...to think all these people are actually entrusted with someone's kids! I especially like the "I will do what I want with your child when they are in my care". I've been reading the archives and I have seen very few things even remotely as bad as that here!

[KatieRae]

Wow.

That's all I can really say. I don't know if I would have just let them all have it, or been too angry to type.. I think my responses would have ranged something like this..

"I would kick you out if you questioned my policies"
I would kick you in the throat if your 'policies' included punishing my child.
"Parents aren't allowed into my home daycare..only to the door"
So you're running an out-of-home child pornography business?
"You don't have the right to be in my home"
You don't have the right to own a daycare.
"I'm sick of entitled, snotty, whiny parents"
I'm sick of self-righteous, rude, sneaky daycare owners.
"Who do you think you are for thinking you have the right to object your opinions into my business"
Who do you think you are telling me I have no right to dictate the treatment of my child?
"Just because you gave birth to your child, doesn't earn you special rights in my daycare"
Just because you own a daycare, doesn't give you special rights to my child.
"When your child is at my facility, you have no right to decide what goes on"
So the law doesn't apply to you either?
"I will do what I want with your child when they are in my care."
Please take your pedophiliac tendencies elsewhere.

The list goes on. I'm honestly sick about it!!

[Greenmagick]

Conversation in a nutshell.....I asked a question about sick policies and high maintenance babies. Got onto the topic of breastfeeding too.

Responses ranged from: "I would kick you out if you questioned my policies"
"Parents aren't allowed into my home daycare..only to the door"
"You don't have the right to be in my home"
"I'm sick of entitled, snotty, whiny parents"
"Who do you think you are for thinking you have the right to object your opinions into my business"
"Just because you gave birth to your child, doesn't earn you special rights in my daycare"
"When your child is at my facility, you have no right to decide what goes on"
"I will do what I want with your child when they are in my care."

The list goes on. I'm honestly sick about it!!

Holy SHITE!!!!!!

My mom ran in an in home daycare while I was growing up. She did not have many options with the amount of school my brother missed being so sick. Anyways, I helped her with her policies, contracts, etc when I was in my teens and yeah, NO way in hell any of the above would fly in any type of professional day care (which includes private and in home).

I have noticed a new trend....random people who decide to make extra money decide to take on a couple extra kids. It seems like a portion of these people really just dont get it...dont get what it takes to provide daycare, dont get how to raise children, dont get whats its like to have to use a daycare. They tend to be very unprofessional and it really really irks me to no end.

Many of the kids my mom watched are now grown and some are even having kids of their own...most STILL keep in touch with my mom (or at least their parents do) because she became part of their family. She loved and cared for their children as a good day care provider should..she worked with and FOR the parents.

[Greenmagick]

I also really really hope these people are outed and their current parents see how sick they are...because this is sick. These are not values or thoughts that should enter a daycare providers head

[Tucker's Mom]

My response was pretty simple. I said "I want to see who is watching my child and in what kind of environment. I don't feel that is too much to ask. I would not trust a provider who felt the need to be this defensive and secretive."

[Danewillow]

Wow! I don't have kids (or even particularly care for them) but that is absurd! These people have businesses, these are customers they're talking about. Put "dog" in front of daycare nd you'd have me fuming. I didn't even give birth to them!

[lisacp75]

If you don't mind my asking.. What in the world happened?

I know there have been some threads on this forum that have been a little less than what people would consider friendly, however, as one of those people who has gotten more than just one unfavorable response to a post, the general attitude and tone of those posts has never seems to be vicious towards me personally. Honestly, the longer I hung around, the more I began to realize that it wasn't that I was being attacked, it was that I was ignorant, fighting for the wrong side, or just blatantly wrong. Now, I'm a pretty bull-headed, stubborn person, and I feel like if I was able to see past my wounded pride and come to terms with the fact that none of what was said was meant to personally hurt and offend me, then other people should be able to do so as well.

It's tough, and it really sucks, but I think we all have some thin skin sometimes

Ugh Katie!!! I think I am having a flashback of the a$$hole that you had a long running thread about. He is despicable. He was right about a lot of his genetics points, but conveniently never answered as to whether he had photo rights. On one of his other blog posts, he made some horribly ignorant comments about parents of Autistic kids and kids with Down's Syndrome that made me want to hunt him down and punch him in the face! My blood pressure is going up just thinking about it!

And wow about the daycare comments! Are you kidding me? Who would ever trust the people making these comments? What a bizarre world we live in...

[SharonAPRN]

Holy Cow! How exceedingly rude! Who better than the parent to advocate for how their child should be treated? One can only reason that the bravado and rudeness that exist on forums, blogs, and the internet doesn't translate to "real life." I bet a great deal of those people wouldn't dare say those things to someones face. Anonymity makes people brave for sure.

[Matt77]

All I can say is WOW! First I would have told her where she could go and then I would have said no thank you I will not be having my kids at the daycare. As a father of three little girls I'm very thankful that my wife is able to be a stay at home mother.

[cambay411]

New member here and I just joined literally a few days ago. I have only posted a few times but so far everyone I've talked to as been very thoughtful and answered any of my questions with zero negativity what so ever.

In fact, even before I seen this post, I was thinking this is the most respectful forum I've ever been on. Much appreciated.