Wow rough day

[Leethaluvsdanes]

Well today was a rough one. While at work my wife calls says that Scooby got out of his kennel while she was gone. So the city ordinance officer put him back in. Thank god he is a neighbor and friend. Then scooby gets out again. I guess he finally found a way to climb over the fence. I had observed him a few times when I first put him in his kennel weeks ago, trying to climb over but couldnt get those long legs up high enough. But not today!
So tomorrow I have to modify the kennel a bit.

So I come home from work and get him out and play and walk him some. Put him back up. Just went out to check on him and he came out of his house I pet him a few times. He went back in his house, then came back out to get some more love. Then back in again. This is unlike him but it is nearly midnight so Im gonna monitor him a bit tomorrow to make sure he was just sleepy and nothing was wrong cause he is usually a ham for some lovin!

Also I aksed about giving glucosimine a week or so ago. Last 2 days I have noticed when he wakes up, gets up and stretches his shoulders pop. So is is time to give gluco? And should I worry about him popping and cracking a just a year and a few weeks old?

[ownedby3danes]

Unfortunately I think this is what we were all afraid of for you. . .

Danes really are velcro dogs and want to be by your side, and quite frankly they are safer there. What if he gets his leg caught in the chainlink while no one is watching??

I hope those kids haven't been tormenting him anymore!! That was the first thing that went through my mind when you said he wasn't acting like himself.

As for his shoulder try the gluco. for a while if he is still popping I would take him to the vet. Danes are prone to OCD, and it wouldn't surprize me if this is something from while he was younger that was left untreated. Does he ever limp on it? Or is it just the popping noise?

[lene1949]

How high is your fence around the kennel...?? If it's 6' Scooby could have hurt his shoulder jumping down??

I thought he was allowed inside now... Dogs sleep at night, and if you have him in a crate he'll not bother your wife or anyone else...

Wouldn't it also be rather cold at night at this time of the year?

[daneowned]

I haven't said anything up until now. WHY do people like you get animals just to leave them out to a life of lonliness and cold??? Maybe pet and play with them once a day if they're lucky. Dogs, especially Danes, need to be with their families. I have already had to stop typing twice here to get my two to stop the zoomies in the house but that is life with Danes and I love it! Your poor dog is getting out because he is BORED out of his mind and the cold will not help his popping and cracking. You never should have gotten the dog hoping you would be able to talk your wife into letting it come inside. Do it a favor and contact a good rescue. It would be better off.

Martha

[Leethaluvsdanes]

I haven't said anything up until now. WHY do people like you get animals just to leave them out to a life of lonliness and cold??? Maybe pet and play with them once a day if they're lucky. Dogs, especially Danes, need to be with their families. I have already had to stop typing twice here to get my two to stop the zoomies in the house but that is life with Danes and I love it! Your poor dog is getting out because he is BORED out of his mind and the cold will not help his popping and cracking. You never should have gotten the dog hoping you would be able to talk your wife into letting it come inside. Do it a favor and contact a good rescue. It would be better off.

Martha

You couldnt be more wrong!
When it is cold he does come inside. Thus why he was inside the 2 nights before. Right now 827 am it is 54*. Its not really cold here ok. I think he got spoiled from being inside 2 nights and thought he would try to get out and be allowed inside. Wrong! I am not giving him to a rescue. He is allowed out 2-3 times a day for exercise and lovin. So no he is not left out in the cold and lonely. Easy to set behind your computer and assume this I guess. But that is certainly not the case. You really should know all the facts before you start judging someone as a pet owner.

How high is your fence around the kennel...?? If it's 6' Scooby could have hurt his shoulder jumping down??

It is 4.5 ft until today its going to 6ft tall. He barely clears the 4.5 ft. I dont think he will clear the 6 ft. He cant hardly get his long hind legs up enough to get out of the kennel.

I hope those kids haven't been tormenting him anymore!! That was the first thing that went through my mind when you said he wasn't acting like himself.

As for his shoulder try the gluco. for a while if he is still popping I would take him to the vet. Danes are prone to OCD, and it wouldn't surprize me if this is something from while he was younger that was left untreated. Does he ever limp on it? Or is it just the popping noise?

No the neighbor kids havent bothered him anymore. But I did let the city ordinance guy know about them. He knows their parent and is gonna talk to her.
He never limps either. I will begin the gluco though.



Might be a good thing he was outside last night though. At 5 am he starts barkin and waking everyone up. So I look out side there is a stranger in my neighbors yard. I got up went out and talked to him and tried to calm him down. Came back inside he starts again! So I go back out to bring him inside cause I didnt see the person anymore. As I come back around front the house the person is setting in my neighbors car. Neighbor is elderly lady lives alone. So now I realize why he is still barking, and I call the police. Turns out the guy is out of his mind and drunk on listerine.
Proud of Scooby!

[ownedby3danes]

4.5 feet is pretty low for a dane. We have 5.5 feet-6 foot fencing all the way around our yard. Unfortunately though, he may learn to climb. . . . after they know what is on the other side (a warm home, a family that gives lots o' lovin, etc) it can get harder and harder to keep them confined. I hope you guys get moved soon so that Scooby can become a permanent member of your inside family!

[Leethaluvsdanes]

4.5 feet is pretty low for a dane. We have 5.5 feet-6 foot fencing all the way around our yard. Unfortunately though, he may learn to climb. . . . after they know what is on the other side (a warm home, a family that gives lots o' lovin, etc) it can get harder and harder to keep them confined. I hope you guys get moved soon so that Scooby can become a permanent member of your inside family!

ME TOO! I been eyeing a few houses. But the wife thinks right now that financing is a problem because of the economy. And that might be true. But I told her we never know if we dont atleast apply.

[ownedby3danes]

Trust me from someone who had their house for sale . . . THERE ARE SOOOOO MANY PEOPLE WILLING TO LEASE TO OWN RIGHT NOW!!!!! I would have LOVED for someone to make that type of offer on our home. . . right now would be a wonderful time for you to take someone up for that type of offer, and many would allow dogs!!! I am sure of it!

[Leethaluvsdanes]

Trust me from someone who had their house for sale . . . THERE ARE SOOOOO MANY PEOPLE WILLING TO LEASE TO OWN RIGHT NOW!!!!! I would have LOVED for someone to make that type of offer on our home. . . right now would be a wonderful time for you to take someone up for that type of offer, and many would allow dogs!!! I am sure of it!

I have seen that going on locally. I might check into that.

[blueberry]

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[Leethaluvsdanes]

I'm sorry, I guessed I missed something here. Why is Scooby not allowed to be an inside dog?

Again, sorry, but?????

"You couldnt be more wrong!
When it is cold he does come inside. Thus why he was inside the 2 nights before. Right now 827 am it is 54*. Its not really cold here ok. I think he got spoiled from being inside 2 nights and thought he would try to get out and be allowed inside. Wrong! I am not giving him to a rescue. He is allowed out 2-3 times a day for exercise and lovin. So no he is not left out in the cold and lonely. "

Spoiled because he came in for 2 nights?? 2-3 times a day for exercise and loving??? It's not the cold he's bothered by, it's the lack of company!!!!!

He is not allowed inside because we rent and inside pets arent allowed. Being outside isnt gonna kill him. And yes 2-3 times a day of exercise and company is more than alot of animals I have seen get.

[Leethaluvsdanes]

Blue berry

What is it that offends you? That I take the best care of my pet that I possibly can?

[Mom2Dori]

Okay, please don't take what I'm going to say as disrespect, judgement, or anything else negative. I just want to try to clarify some of the reactions that you get.

I think I speak for most of us on the forum when I say Danes are our passion. With that, we know a personality, needs, health issues, and other aspects of a Dane inside and out.

With that said...something that we all believe to be true is that Danes are inside dogs...they are family members, velcro dogs, and let's face it, needy at times. They do zoomies, beg for attention, and sleep in beds and on furniture. That's just a Dane, and I'm sure none of us would have it any other way.

I think it is hard for some of us to swallow thinking of a Dane outside alone **most** of the time. I understand you give him attention...but you figure, for us...our Danes are with us 24/7. So it's a hard thing to grasp. Especially, for those of us, like myself, that work with rescue...see the effects of a Dane living outside. We won't even allow a family to adopt if the Dane will not be an indoor dog. So there's a reason for that.

I know you said it won't kill him to be outside...you're right. But Danes are SO SO sensitive, so mentally it may. Depression, and behavior issues are not uncommon.

With all of that said, I understand your position. And I thank you for giving Scooby a better home than he had. I truly do. I think you're half way there...and I wish you luck finding a home.

The last thing I will add, is that because Scooby is alone a lot...and bored and lonely when you're not around...he may just learn to climb 6 feet. I've seen and heard of it done. Could you put some kind of roofing up? Even if it's just tarp. I'd hate for him to hurt himself.

As far as the shoulder, gluco, apple cider vinegar, and honey.

As I said...please do not take offense to this response. I am trying to help you understand where a lot of us are coming from on this topic.

[daneowned]

Good suggestion about the ACV and honey. Make sure it is RAW honey, not the processed kind from the grocery store. Although some do carry the raw. Raw, unfiltered ACV is what you want. You can find that in the organic section of the grocery store or in health food stores.
I hope the "renting" excuse and no dogs allowed inside is not a cop out. That would have been a clue to wait. Maybe when you get a house of your own, your wife will buckle...I doubt it. Sorry Scooby. I'm done venting.

[joyable]

Okay, please don't take what I'm going to say as disrespect, judgement, or anything else negative. I just want to try to clarify some of the reactions that you get.

I think I speak for most of us on the forum when I say Danes are our passion. With that, we know a personality, needs, health issues, and other aspects of a Dane inside and out.

With that said...something that we all believe to be true is that Danes are inside dogs...they are family members, velcro dogs, and let's face it, needy at times. They do zoomies, beg for attention, and sleep in beds and on furniture. That's just a Dane, and I'm sure none of us would have it any other way.

I think it is hard for some of us to swallow thinking of a Dane outside alone **most** of the time. I understand you give him attention...but you figure, for us...our Danes are with us 24/7. So it's a hard thing to grasp. Especially, for those of us, like myself, that work with rescue...see the effects of a Dane living outside. We won't even allow a family to adopt if the Dane will not be an indoor dog. So there's a reason for that.

I know you said it won't kill him to be outside...you're right. But Danes are SO SO sensitive, so mentally it may. Depression, and behavior issues are not uncommon.

With all of that said, I understand your position. And I thank you for giving Scooby a better home than he had. I truly do. I think you're half way there...and I wish you luck finding a home.

The last thing I will add, is that because Scooby is alone a lot...and bored and lonely when you're not around...he may just learn to climb 6 feet. I've seen and heard of it done. Could you put some kind of roofing up? Even if it's just tarp. I'd hate for him to hurt himself.

As far as the shoulder, gluco, apple cider vinegar, and honey.

As I said...please do not take offense to this response. I am trying to help you understand where a lot of us are coming from on this topic.

Thank you for this post Laura. I've been sitting on my hands because I couldn't form the words to say what you said as politely as you did.

IMO right or wrong, a dog's well-being trumps a human's desires to own a dog -- it's not a primal human need and in this economy it's almost a luxury. The first question adopters should ask is if they can offer proper care and home environment for the breed. If not, they should choose another breed or wait until their situation changes. Especially knowing a Dane's health challenges -- bloat in particular -- and its sensitive temperament, we will not place a Dane with people who do not plan to keep the dog inside.

Leethaluvsdanes may not be aware, but he's already seeing the first signs of isolation stress and behavior change directly caused by the Dane's living situation -- fence jumping.

I am hopeful that Leethaluvsdane's housing situation will change ASAP. Clearly his heart is in the right place and he's doing the best he can given the situation. But if this situation can't be resolved quickly, I truly hope he will do the right thing and turn her in to a reputable Dane rescue.