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    Hi guys,after a long discussion with someone at the dog park i became curious to the origin of our dogs.I looked on the net and found a website that said the danes are half irish greyhound and half mastiff (although i never heard or seen a irish greyhound).The guy at the dog park said they are there own breed from germany and were not mixed with any other dog.There was one other site that said danes were originally much smaller and through very strict breeding throughout the years became a giant breed.These all could be true,so does anyone now the real truth?


    thanks todd

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    RE: History of the great danes?

    They were not their own breed. All breeds came from a mixture of several breeds to produce a dog that was bred to do a job. Danes are a mixture of Irish Wolfhound, mastiff and greyhound.

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      RE: History of the great danes?

      here's an interesting site
      http://groups.msn.com/THEGREATDANEINHISTORYANDART
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      • #4
        RE: History of the great danes?

        No one knows for sure about the origin because breeding records were not kept, because the concept of breeds rather than function is largely a 19th-century concept, and because there are few artist's depictions of these early dogs that also identify them by type.

        There are historical references to a now-extinct early breed of Irish Greyhound which was descibed as rough coated, similar to today's Irish Wolfhound. All of today's AKC giant breeds with the possible exception of the Great Dane are late 19th-century recreations of older breeds.

        As more breed DNA studies are done, it may be possible to identify some common origins. The canine genome project already has shown the Saluki, long thought to be one of the most ancient of breeds, to be a mondern recreation of the traditional desert dog and has discovered a big "oops" of Whippets behind a good many Collies.

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        • #5
          RE: History of the great danes?

          There is also much info on this site:

          http://www.duitse-doggen-deense-deut...formation.html

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          • #6
            RE: History of the great danes?

            The exact history of the breed is lost in "the mist of time".

            The Great Dane has been it's own breed for hundreds of years, but was developed at one point from other breeds - including obviously the mastiff (progenitor of many breeds) and some sort of coursing hound (likely greyhound).

            The inclusion of Irish Wolfhounds is controversial and not agreed upon. I ~have~ heard, though, that when the Irish Wolfhound itself was dwindling in numbers the Great Dane was used to keep the breed going.

            Some believe the foundation of the breed was in Germany, others believe the most influential force upon the breed was elsewhere - including England.

            There are the links already posted that have information as well as Good accounts in a series that was run in the GD Reporter as well as some of the more "classic" breed books. My favorite is shown on this website: http://www.doglogic.com/booksrare.htm scroll to the bottom to "The New Complete Great Dane by Noted Authorities" published in 1963 and I believe Gregory of Kent on the cover. It has a detailed history of the breed as well as pictures of artwork and the breed standard from I believe the 40's, also lots on breeders from the 60's etc and many famous dogs.


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            • #7
              RE: History of the great danes?

              Here's a reader's copy on eBay, along with one of Lina Basquette's books:

              http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...539182560&rd=1

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